Re: [rtcweb] Summary of Application Developers' opinions of the current WebRTC API and SDP as a control surface

Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com> Sat, 20 July 2013 03:28 UTC

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From: Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com>
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Best to nuke the spreadsheet from orbit.  It's the only way to be sure.
On Jul 19, 2013 8:20 PM, "Bernard Aboba" <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com>; wrote:

> You can remove my line in the spreadsheet, but the residue of my bit
> presence may remain, polluting nearby cells. I recommend use of bit bleach.
>
> On Jul 19, 2013, at 7:10 PM, "Peter Thatcher" <pthatcher@google.com>;
> wrote:
>
> Like I said when I first sent the summary, anyone is welcome to make a
> different summary from the raw data, or collect their own data.  I haven't
> been around long enough to know how to categorize people and whose input is
> considered valuable and whose isn't, so I ignorantly gave everyone equal
> weight.  So if you'd like, you can filter out  Bernard and recalculate.
>
> On Jul 19, 2013 6:52 PM, "Cullen Jennings" <fluffy@iii.ca>; wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jul 19, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com>; wrote:
>>
>> > You're surprised that the first web developers that try out WebRTC and
>> have feedback have experience with SIP and VoIP?  We shouldn't find that
>> surprising, nor should we discount their feedback because of it.
>>
>> I was not saying that feedback from folks like Bernard Aboba was not
>> useful, of course it can be. I was just noting the sample set.
>
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