Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio codecs
Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Fri, 17 August 2012 23:44 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio codecs
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Agreed (as long as by G.711 we mean both PCMA and PCMU). On 8/17/12 5:22 PM, Justin Uberti wrote: > I agree that Opus and G.711 should be the MTI audio codecs for > WebRTC. > > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Bernard Aboba > <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com <mailto:bernard_aboba@hotmail.com>> > wrote: > > I also support the selection of OPUS and G.711 as MTI. G.722 can > be a SHOULD; it is widely supported. > > > > On Aug 16, 2012, at 4:24 PM, "Richard Shockey" <richard@shockey.us > <mailto:richard@shockey.us>> wrote: > >> Reading this list is occasionally an act of torture banned by >> several conventions ..but since you ask. >> >> I completely support the selection of Opus and G.711 as mandatory >> to implement audio codec's ..however I'm very very open minded >> about > supporting >> G.722. It has it merits. It should be totally obvious to most > that if you >> even think about interconnecting to public E.164 networks the > default option >> for VoLTE and Enterprise Voice networks is going to be G.722. >> >> If it is your goal to create globally useful stove pipes fine, >> but interconnection with existing carrier real time networks is >> IMHO a > rational >> goal. >> >> As for Video .. for goodness sakes just get over it people. >> H.264 > is totally >> implemented everywhere on the planet Earth. So what about the > intellectual >> property problems. It's not like VP8 doesn't have problems >> either. >> >> I'll save my comments about the SDP offer/answer issue for >> another > day. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org >> <mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org> > [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org>] > On Behalf Of >> Cullen Jennings (fluffy) Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 1:16 PM >> To: rtcweb@ietf.org <mailto:rtcweb@ietf.org> Subject: [rtcweb] >> Confirmation of consensus on audio codecs >> >> >> At the last meeting we took a hum on selecting Opus and G.711 as >> the mediatory to implement audio codecs. If there is any new >> opinions > please >> send them to the list by August 30th, after which the chairs >> will > make a >> determination of consensus. >> >> Thanks, Cullen >> >> Please note that the following IPR disclosure have been made on >> these codecs. They can be found at >> >> http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/ >> >> >> 2010-11-07 . ID # 1445 "Broadcom Corporation's Statement about >> IPR related to draft-ietf-codec-opus-00 and >> draft-ietf-codec-description-00 (1)" 2010-11-07 . ID # 1446 >> "Xiph.Org Foundation's Statement about IPR related to >> draft-ietf-codec-opus-00" 2010-11-12 . ID # 1447 "Broadcom >> Corporation's Statement about IPR related to >> draft-ietf-codec-opus-00 and draft-ietf-codec-description-00 >> (2)" 2011-03-23 . ID # 1520 "Qualcomm Incorporated's Statement >> about IPR related to draft-ietf-codec-opus-05" 2011-03-27 . ID # >> 1524 "Xiph.Org Foundation's Statement about IPR related to >> draft-ietf-codec-opus-05" 2011-03-29 . ID # 1526 "Broadcom >> Corporation's Statement about IPR related to >> draft-ietf-codec-opus-05" 2011-03-29 . ID # 1525 "Skype Limited's >> Statement about IPR related to > draft-ietf-codec-opus-05" >> 2011-07-23 . ID # 1602 "Skype Limited's Statement about IPR >> related to > draft-ietf-codec-opus-07" >> 2012-01-25 . ID # 1670 "Microsoft Corporation's Statement about >> IPR related to draft-ietf-codec-opus-10" 2012-03-12 . ID # 1712 >> "Huawei Technologies Co.,Ltd's Statement about IPR related to >> draft-ietf-codec-opus-11 (1)" 2012-04-02 . ID # 1741 "Huawei >> Technologies Co.,Ltd's Statement about IPR related to >> draft-ietf-codec-opus-11 (2)" >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAu1zwACgkQNL8k5A2w/vxYzgCg5KnKpp5fIgoA54YB7XLev2Rk xO0An0+JXgD7RgnRTQVvyg+Z3WqC6MMQ =DFvE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Monty Montgomery
- [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio codecs Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Monty Montgomery
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Lorenzo Miniero
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Ken Fischer
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… tom harper
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… stephane.proust
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Lishitao
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Neil Stratford
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Paul Coverdale
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Lishitao
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Olle E. Johansson
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Bernhard.Feiten
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Mandyam, Giridhar
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Neil Stratford
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Ron
- [rtcweb] Consensus Statement for Re: Confirmation… Magnus Westerlund