Re: [rtcweb] The MTI Codec Questions (what to ask and how to ask them)

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On 04/11/2014 10:17 AM, Jonathan Rosenberg wrote:
> Matthew,
>
> You wrote:
> "A "substantive change" would be *any* of the parties who participate 
> in these discussions having a different position than before."
>
> Let us not forget that this working group is a large set of people, 
> many of whom are not amongst the frequent posters and/or highly 
> opinionated folks on this and other threads. While the changes over 
> the last year are unlikely to sway the opinions of those who are 
> entrenched, they may make enough difference to folks in the middle. 
> Enough, at least, for us to achieve rough consensus, since that is the 
> best we can hope for.
>
> Given the importance of this issue to making webRTC viable in the 
> market, and given the relatively low cost of running a brief 
> discussion (updates only!) and hum at IETF, I see only a possibility 
> of great progress and almost no negative costs to trying.
>
> -Jonathan R.
>

I think Matthew is referring to "/Insanity/: doing the same thing over 
and over again and expecting different results."-Albert/Einstein/

:)

I'd like to understand whether there has been any progress on friendlier 
licensing terms for H264 or a royalty-free profile. The H264 crowd made 
a lot of noise about these possibilities but nothing seems to have come 
out of them.

If you want the community to adopt H264 over VP8, then you need to make 
some serious progress on these two points.

Gili