Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and STUN
Marc Petit-Huguenin <petithug@acm.org> Fri, 04 November 2011 16:17 UTC
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Cc: 'Behave WG' <behave@ietf.org>, 'Keith Moore' <moore@network-heretics.com>, 'Keith Moore' <moore@cs.utk.edu>, 'Ned Freed' <ned.freed@mrochek.com>, rtcweb@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and STUN
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/04/2011 09:06 AM, Dan Wing wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On >> Behalf Of Eric Rescorla >> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 8:56 AM >> To: Ned Freed >> Cc: Keith Moore; Keith Moore; Behave WG; rtcweb@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN >> >> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> >> wrote: >>>> Top-posting a general principle, detailed comment at the bottom.... >>> >>>> For all URI schemes, I think the URI needs to contain all the >>>> information you need in order to make contact with the service; you >>>> can't negotiate until you've made contact. >>>> (the process may involve things like "resolve through a resolution >>>> mechanism like DNS" or "get authorization tokens from somewhere >> else"). >>> >>>> In the case of TURN, you need to distinguish between TCP, UDP and >> TLS, >>>> and you need to make that determination before you send the first >>>> packet. That means the distinguishing information between those >> three >>>> things belongs in the URL; I don't think the scheme is a good place >> to >>>> encode it. >>> >>> I'm in complete agreement with Harald on all of these points. And >> while it >>> would have been nice if URL syntax was less messy and more general, >> making >>> it easier to do these sorts of things in a consistent way, it quite >> simply >>> isn't and we have to make do with what we have. >> >> I don't have any commitment to the scheme. What's the best place? > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-petithuguenin-behave-turn-uri-bis-05 > uses "?transport=", for example: > > turn://example.com?transport=tcp > turns://example.com?transport=udp The document uses opaque URI (there was a long discussion at the time about this), so it is in fact: turn:example.com?transport=tcp turns:example.com?transport=udp - -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Personal email: marc@petit-huguenin.org Professional email: petithug@acm.org Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk60EBIACgkQ9RoMZyVa61fG4wCeLR4SnIoXerj7ONxM6QeKgjZh rmoAmwbBUDmL6YOlnfH1sWsC6a6R+4Bz =Iqfa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Harald Alvestrand
- [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Keith Moore
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Keith Moore
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Keith Moore
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Keith Moore
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Keith Moore
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Ned Freed
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Tina TSOU