Re: [rtcweb] draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements - HTTP Only Firewall.
"Hutton, Andrew" <andrew.hutton@siemens-enterprise.com> Thu, 11 July 2013 08:28 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements - HTTP Only Firewall.
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Sounds good to me. Regards Andy > -----Original Message----- > From: Stefan Håkansson LK [mailto:stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com] > Sent: 11 July 2013 07:44 > To: Hutton, Andrew > Cc: rt >> "rtcweb@ietf.org" > Subject: Re: draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements - HTTP Only > Firewall. > > Hi Andrew, > > thanks for catching this! > > F37 currently reads: > > "The browser must be able to send streams and data to a peer in the > presence of FWs that only allows http(s) traffic." > > Would a change to: > > "The browser must be able to send streams and data to a peer in the > presence of FWs that only allows traffic via a HTTP Proxy." > > be correct? > > Br, > Stefan > > > On 7/10/13 4:00 PM, Hutton, Andrew wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Regarding the use case in 3.2.3 covering a HTTP only FW the text > > states: > > > > "This use-case is almost identical to the Simple Video Communication > > Service use-case (Section 3.2.1). The difference is that one of the > > users is behind a FW that only allows http traffic". > > > > This needs to be changed to allow for the common case when a HTTP > > Proxy is deployed so I suggest changing the last sentence to > > > > "The difference is that one of the users is behind a FW that only > > allows traffic via a HTTP Proxy". > > > > There also needs to be a corresponding change to requirement F37. > > > > I believe we have previously discussed changing this but have to > > admit I could not fine the e-mail chain so maybe it was during a > > meeting. > > > > Regards Andy > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org > >> [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stefan Håkansson LK > >> Sent: 27 June 2013 09:50 To: rt >> "rtcweb@ietf.org" Subject: > >> [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-rtcweb- > >> use-cases-and-requirements-11.txt > >> > >> From the change log: > >> > >> o Described that the API requirements are really from a W3C > >> perspective and are supplied as an appendix in the introduction. > >> Moved API requirements to an Appendix. > >> > >> o Removed the "Conventions" section with the key-words and > >> reference to RFC2119. Also changed uppercase MUST's/SHOULD's to > >> lowercase. > >> > >> o Added a note on the proposed use of the document to the > >> introduction. > >> > >> o Removed the note talking about WS from the "FW that only allows > >> http" use-case. > >> > >> o Removed the word "Skype" that was used as example in one of the > >> use-cases. > >> > >> o Clarified F3 (the req saying the everything the browser sends > >> must be rate controlled). > >> > >> o Removed the TBD saying we need to define reasonable levels from > >> the requirement saying that quality must be good even in presence > >> of packet losses (F5), and changed "must" to "should" (Based on a > >> list discussion involving Bernard). > >> > >> o Removed F6 ("The browser must be able to handle high loss and > >> jitter levels in a graceful way."), also after a list discussion. > >> > >> o Clarified F7 (used to say that the browser must support fast > >> stream switches, now says that reference frames must be inserted > >> when requested). o Removed the questions from F9 (echo > >> cancellation), F10 (syncronization), F21 (telephony codec). > >> > >> o Exchanged "restrictive firewalls" for "limited middleboxes" in > >> F19 (as proposed by Martin). > >> > >> o Expanded DTMF and IVR in F22 (proposed by Martin) > >> > >> o Added ref to RFC5405 in F23 (proposed by Lars Eggert). > >> > >> o Exchanged "service provided" for "web application" in F32. > >> > >> o Changed the text in 3.2.1 that motivates F36 (new text "It is > >> essential that media and data be encrypted, authenticated ... bound > >> to the user identity."); and rewrote F36, included a ref to > >> RFC5479. > >> > >> o Changed "quality of service" to "quality of experience" in F38. > >> > >> o Added F39. > >> > >> o Used new formulation of A17 (proposed by Martin). > >> > >> o Updated A20. > >> > >> o Updated A25. > >> > >> Things that have not been done: > >> > >> - No use-case on emergency services added (as said already in > >> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/msg07253.html) > >> > >> - No use-case on real-time text added (as said already in > >> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/msg07254.html) > >> > >> - No clarification on what solution(s) related to multiple > >> resolutions of the same content added (discussed in > >> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/msg07256.html > >> but no input received). > >> > >> - The order of the requirements (Fn) is still a mess - but I kept > >> it as is for this version to make diffing simpler. To be fixed in > >> an upcoming version. > >> > >> Stefan > >> > >> > >> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Version > >> Notification for > >> draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements-11.txt Date: 10:40 > >> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org <internet-drafts@ietf.org> To: > >> Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>, Göran > >> Eriksson AP <goran.ap.eriksson@ericsson.com>, Stefan Håkansson > >> LK <stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com>, Göran Eriksson AP > >> <goran.ap.eriksson@ericsson.com> > >> > >> > >> A new version of I-D, > >> draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements- 11.txt has been > >> successfully submitted by Christer Holmberg and posted to the IETF > >> repository. > >> > >> Filename: draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements > Revision: > >> 11 Title: Web Real-Time Communication Use-cases and > Requirements > >> Creation date: 2013-06-27 Group: rtcweb Number of > pages: 30 > >> URL: > >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and- > >> > >> > requirements-11.txt > >> Status: > >> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and- > >> requirements Htmlized: > >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and- > >> requirements-11 Diff: > >> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and- > >> requirements-11 > >> > >> Abstract: This document describes web based real-time communication > >> use- cases. Requirements on the browser functionality are derived > >> from use- cases. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> The IETF Secretariat > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ rtcweb mailing > >> list rtcweb@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > >
- [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requ… Hutton, Andrew
- [rtcweb] draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirem… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requ… Stefan Håkansson LK