Re: [rtcweb] How to multiplex between peers

Dzonatas Sol <dzonatas@gmail.com> Thu, 21 July 2011 14:28 UTC

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Yes, and note that the issue experienced is more wide-spread than this 
WG. This is clearly evident when protocols attempt to sustain stateful 
connections and virtualization later proves false security. Keep this in 
mind before thinking to toss RTP and UDP.

I can't even uphold SSL as sustainable anymore.

On 07/21/2011 04:56 AM, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) wrote:
> Agreed. 3 options. I'd rephrase the third as package only what is available amongst existing protocol, and document what it doesn't do as a result.
>
> But the current discussion is still in middle ground between all of them with no clear direction forward as to which it wants to do.
>
> Regards
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> Keith
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>    
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
>> Of Harald Alvestrand
>> Sent: 21 July 2011 12:06
>> To: rtcweb@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [rtcweb] How to multiplex between peers
>>
>> On 07/21/11 12:44, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) wrote:
>>      
>>> This discussion seems to be hovering in some sort of middle ground.
>>>
>>> Either 1)
>>>
>>> It has not decided what transport to use for real time data, in which
>>>        
>> case it should document the requirements for such a transport protocol,
>> and then evaluate whether existing solutions meet those requirements,
>> versus developing an entirely new protocol.
>>      
>>> Or 2)
>>>
>>> I has decided that RTP should be used, in which case it should identify
>>>        
>> the shortcomings (i.e. a set of requirements on how it needs to be further
>> developed) and send these to the AVTCORE working group.
>> Don't forget
>>
>> 3)
>>
>> It has decided that RTP should be used, with no changes and no new
>> extensions, and is going through the ritual of swearing at the resulting
>> shortcomings while figuring out which parts of RTP it can say "we don't
>> need them, so it's OK to do things that mean we can't use them" to.
>>
>> If this group gets lined up behind an 1-year dependency on another group
>> before it can deliver its initial work products, this group is going to
>> be irrelevant.
>>
>>                 Harald
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