Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcweb-signaling
"Ravindran Parthasarathi" <pravindran@sonusnet.com> Tue, 18 October 2011 19:00 UTC
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From: Ravindran Parthasarathi <pravindran@sonusnet.com>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcweb-signaling
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Cullen, Thanks for the clarification about ROAP dialog stateful in signaling gateway & Session-id usage. Please update this information in the next revision. Thanks Partha >-----Original Message----- >From: Cullen Jennings [mailto:fluffy@cisco.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:12 AM >To: Ravindran Parthasarathi >Cc: rtcweb@ietf.org; public-webrtc@w3.org; Jonathan Rosenberg >Subject: Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcweb-signaling > > >So I might have messed up the draft a bit. I'm fine with things can be >implemented as dialog statefull, what I want is that it is possible to >make a signaling gateway that is only transaction statefull. I'm fine if >some signaling gateways are built as dialog statefull. > > (As a side note, some B2BUA are effectively transaction statefull but >that is pretty rare ) > > >On Oct 17, 2011, at 15:28 , Ravindran Parthasarathi wrote: > >> Cullen/Joanthan, >> >> I like your proposed idea as it is going in the direction of having >> "standard" signaling protocol for RTCWeb. I'm seeing your proposal as >> SDP offer/answer over websocket and the proposal helps to easy gateway >> development between RTCWeb server and legacy signaling protocols. >> >> I have fundamental question in the proposal as it proposes RTCWeb >server >> as SIP proxy equivalent and in reality, unfortunately most of the SIP >> deployment work is based on B2BUA. The question is whether RTCWeb >server >> shall be dialog-state or MUST be transaction-stateful only. >> >> Also, session-id in the draft is used to uniquely understand the >offerer >> and answerer in the transaction or session. In case it is session, how >> to indicate the termination of the session. >> > >My personal opinion is that to be able to clean up all the state in a >clean an easy way, we should add some message to indicate the SDP offer >/ answer state and related media streams can be discarded. I'd like to >add that to the next version. > > >> Thanks >> Partha >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On >> Behalf >>> Of Cullen Jennings >>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 8:39 AM >>> To: rtcweb@ietf.org; public-webrtc@w3.org >>> Cc: Jonathan Rosenberg >>> Subject: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcweb-signaling >>> >>> >>> Jonathan and I submitted a new draft on setting up media based on the >>> SDP Offer/Answer model. The ASCII flows are a bit hard to read so >until >>> I update them, I recommend reading the PDF version at >>> >>> http://tools.ietf.org/pdf/draft-jennings-rtcweb-signaling-00.pdf >>> >>> Clearly the draft is an early stage but we plan to revise it before >the >>> deadline for the IETF 82. Love to get input - particularly on if this >>> looks like generally the right direction to go. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> rtcweb mailing list >>> rtcweb@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb
- [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcweb-s… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Roman Shpount
- [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with ROA… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Roy, Radhika R USA CIV (US)
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… BeckW
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- [rtcweb] Why SDP answer needs and ack … was Re: S… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- [rtcweb] Forking -Re: SDP Offer/Answer draft-jenn… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Why SDP answer needs and ack … was R… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Why SDP answer needs and ack … was R… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Stefan Håkansson
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Stefan Håkansson
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Harald Alvestrand
- [rtcweb] Draft name change: draft-holmberg-mmusic… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Forking - Re: SDP Offer/Answer draft… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] Forking - Re: SDP Offer/Answer draft… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] Why SDP answer needs and ack … was R… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] Why SDP answer needs and ack … was R… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Why SDP answer needs and ack … was R… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings