Re: [rtcweb] Stephan Wenger's choices

[Eric Rescorla <[e-mail]>]

On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Ron <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I'm not rusted on to any alternative here, so I'm inviting you to convince
> me if I'm not convincing you.  But you're not offering up much more than
> 264 legs good, 261 legs bad.

It's not an issue of H.264 versus H.261. It's an issue of modern codecs
versus H.261. VP8 quality is perfectly acceptable here. I suspect Theora
and 263 quality would be as well, but I haven't looked at enough samples
to be sure.


> If your reasoning is strong, that shouldn't be a hard question to answer
> with plain engineering facts.

This isn't an engineering question. It's a question of what you think is
acceptable to users. After looking at some H.261 video, I think it's
sufficiently bad that we would be better off with no MTI at all. Obviously,
your mileage may vary, but it's not a question that can be answered
with the sorts of arguments you have been offering (or that I can
offer you).

In any case, looking at the survey responses I think it's fairly clear
that there's no real consensus for H.261, so this discussion
seems particularly moot. Feel free to have the last word

-Ekr