Re: [rtcweb] RTP Usage: Is RTP Retransmission REQUIRED or RECOMMENDED

Stefan Holmer <holmer@google.com> Fri, 29 June 2012 07:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] RTP Usage: Is RTP Retransmission REQUIRED or RECOMMENDED
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Doesn't this in the end boil down to what tools we have for baseline
resilience? Retransmissions are fairly easy to implement and will in most
cases give a much better experience than for example relying on periodic
key frames or doing key frame requests. Also it isn't necessary for the
decoder to support decoding streams with lost packets.

/Stefan

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Magnus Westerlund <
magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> wrote:

> On 2012-06-28 16:36, Cullen Jennings wrote:
> >
> > I think you need to separate this for audio and video and be far more
> > specific about what type of retransmit ion you are talking about. In
> > many cases the retransmit ion schemes for audio make the end suer
> > experience worse.
>
> I am not disagreeing unless the RTT is really low.
>
> What I am asking the WG is if RTP retransmission is a RECOMMENDED or
> REQUIRED feature in the toolbox that an WebRTC end-point supports. This
> says nothing on when you select to use it and on which media. If we want
> to include such recommendations we can do it. In fact the RTP usage
> draft has a bit on text discussing the issue with RTT.
>
> Cheers
>
> Magnus
> (As WG chair)
>
> >
> > On Jun 27, 2012, at 24:36 , Magnus Westerlund wrote:
> >
> >> WG,
> >>
> >> We had a discussion at the interim if RTP Retransmission is to be
> >> considered REQUIRED or RECOMMENDED to implement. I would like to
> >> see if we can first have some discussion on this topic before
> >> moving on to see if we can get a consensus here on the mailing
> >> list.
> >>
> >> Please provide your views on this topic.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Magnus Westerlund (As Chair and document editor)
> >>
> >>
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