Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness-10.txt

Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Mon, 15 December 2014 13:24 UTC

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Hi,

Thank you very much for addressing my comments! :)

However, I still have an issue with the text saying:

  	"A WebRTC implementation [I-D.ietf-rtcweb-overview], which implements
   	full ICE, MUST perform consent freshness test using STUN request/
   	response as described below:"


First, I question whether this document should make normative requirements on WebRTC? Shouldn't some WebRTC document instead mandate the usage?

Second, what if a non-WebRTC implementation wants to use the mechanism? The procedures are described below the text above, so the way I read it they only apply to WebRTC implementations.

Third, *IF* the scope of the mechanism is only WebRTC (perhaps it is, and I have misunderstood), I think we need to have some explicit text indicating that.

Fourth, if you want to use terminology from [I-D.ietf-rtcweb-overview] you need to make sure it's aligned with that draft. I don't think "WebRTC implementation" exists in draft-rtcweb-overview-13, so you would have to define that as a browser, non-browser or compatible endpoint (or, use those terminologies).

Thanks!

Regards,

Christer







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Subject: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness-10.txt


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : STUN Usage for Consent Freshness
        Authors         : Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
                          Dan Wing
                          Ram Mohan Ravindranath
                          Tirumaleswar Reddy
                          Martin Thomson
	Filename        : draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness-10.txt
	Pages           : 9
	Date            : 2014-12-14

Abstract:
   To prevent sending excessive traffic to an endpoint, periodic consent
   needs to be obtained from that remote endpoint.

   This document describes a consent mechanism using a new Session
   Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN) usage.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness/

There's also a htmlized version available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness-10

A diff from the previous version is available at:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness-10


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

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