Re: [rtcweb] Codec Draft

Rob Glidden <> Sat, 17 December 2011 19:14 UTC

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No, not at all, I'm saying something altogether different: I am saying 
all these kinds of characterizations supporting old text, however 
framed, cast wrong procedural net, for multiple reasons.

Proposed new text is straightforward and should be unobjectionable:

"The REQUIRED video codec should be a royalty-free codec which has been 
specified by a recognized standards process such as MPEG or other 
due-process standards group and provide reviewable substantiation of its 
royalty-free status."


On 12/16/2011 5:35 PM, Chris Blizzard wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rob Glidden"<>
>> To: "Chris Blizzard"<>
>> Cc: "Harald Alvestrand"<>>,, "Cary Bran"<>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 10:45:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Codec Draft
>> Chris:
>> "MPEG-LA-is-a-monopolist" characterization casts wrong procedural net,
>> among reasons pending lawsuits -- one more reason to be accurate and
>> follow procedure.
> Sorry for the follow-up, but just to be clear, this is not what I said.  What I said is this:
>>> To get at the heart of the issue, I think that many people would
>>> like to use H.264 support as the default. It's lower-friction and
>>> widely deployed. But that's entirely up to the rights holders for
>>> that technology. That's why there's a date and a specific call-out
>>> to MPEG LA as the monopoly rights holder in the text. It's up to
>>> them to decide, and they have three months from tomorrow to do so.
>>> --Chris
> MPEG LA is the monopoly licensor for H.264.  Patents are legal government-sponsored monopolies and they license many of the patents for that technology.  (Although they clearly disallow the assertion that they have all of them via their license!)  "Monopolist" as you put it has a somewhat criminal tone in normal usage and would be the result of their actions with that monopoly in place.  I want to be clear that I did not mean that and that's your interpretation, not mine.
> --Chris