Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video codec MTI discussion

Andrew Allen <aallen@blackberry.com> Thu, 14 March 2013 03:03 UTC

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The operative word being "IF" - and always read the fine print first!



From: Cameron Byrne [mailto:cb.list6@gmail.com]
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video codec MTI discussion


On Mar 13, 2013 7:11 PM, "Andrew Allen" <aallen@blackberry.com<mailto:aallen@blackberry.com>> wrote:
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> Lorenzo
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> A good piece of advice when shopping is to always beware of the places where the price is not well advertised - the fact that the price is not known in advance does not mean its free - and often quite the opposite!
>
> Andrew
>
Since we are handing out advice.

Here is another piece if advice.

If it's free, take 2.

CB
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lorenzo Miniero [mailto:lorenzo@meetecho.com<mailto:lorenzo@meetecho.com>]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 06:55 PM Central Standard Time
> To: Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@jdrosen.net<mailto:jdrosen@jdrosen.net>>
> Cc: rtcweb@ietf.org<mailto:rtcweb@ietf.org> <rtcweb@ietf.org<mailto:rtcweb@ietf.org>>
> Subject: Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video codec MTI discussion
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> Il giorno Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:06:47 -0400
> Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@jdrosen.net<mailto:jdrosen@jdrosen.net>> ha scritto:
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> > I have one more thing to say - speaking now as a developer.
> >
> > As some of you may know, I recently returned to Cisco as CTO of the
> > cloud collaboration group, which is responsible for Webex. Webex was
> > one of the first services to do voice and video on the web, using
> > plugins of course. For our business, a key requirement is
> > interoperability with other video systems in the Cisco portfolio,
> > including our video clients and telepresence units. Those are all
> > based on H.264. Consequently, much as I would like to avoid the need
> > for a plugin, the benefits of eliminating the plugin do not outweigh
> > the drawbacks of having to transcode from VP8 to H.264. If IETF
> > selects VP8 as the MTI codec, this will make it dramatically more
> > difficult and expensive for us to use webRTC. If H.264 is the MIT
> > codec, it will make it much easier for us to use webRTC.
> >
>
> Speaking as a developer working for a company with much less money than
> yours, if the IETF selects H.264 as the MTI codec, this will make it
> even more dramatically difficult and expensive (if not impossible) for
> pretty much everybody else to use webRTC, or at least to develop
> services based on it.
>
> Lorenzo
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> Lorenzo Miniero, COB
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