Re: [rtcweb] Video Codec discussion in Thursday agenda slot

Gerard Fernando <gerardmxf@yahoo.co.uk> Thu, 14 March 2013 00:24 UTC

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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 00:24:34 +0000 (GMT)
From: Gerard Fernando <gerardmxf@yahoo.co.uk>
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Hello YK,
The disclosure process in MPEG is not based on who you are, or on your Business model.

Kind regards

Gerard




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 From: "Wang, Ye-Kui" <yekuiw@qti.qualcomm.com>
To: Stockhammer Thomas <stockhammer@nomor.de>de>; Bo Burman <bo.burman@ericsson.com> 
Cc: "rtcweb@ietf.org" <rtcweb@ietf.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, 13 March 2013, 10:40
Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Video Codec discussion in Thursday agenda slot
 
> >  How many others who did not respond to MPEG LA's call but have IPR 
> > are
> there?
> 
> [TS]  Just one more hypothesis: If I would have, what would be my 
> obligation/motivation to do so now?

Speaking of the motivation part; that would depend on who YOU are and what kind of business model or plan YOU have in mind. 

BR, YK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
> Of Stockhammer Thomas
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:53 AM
> To: Bo Burman
> Cc: rtcweb@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Video Codec discussion in Thursday agenda slot
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> 
> >  How many others who did not respond to MPEG LA's call but have IPR are
> there?
> 
> [TS]  Just one more hypothesis: If I would have, what would be my
> obligation/motivation to do so now?
> 
> >>>
> >>> We appreciate the need to have time to evaluate the specific words
> >>> of the license statements that are forthcoming, and the need for the
> >>> people who haven't made their IPR declarations over the last couple
> >>> of years of discussion to do so within the next couple of weeks -
> >>> but we do think that it is important to use the face to face time
> >>> that we have here in Orlando to lay to rest any *other* issues than
> >>> the licensing terms and other issues derived from Google's
> announcement.
> >>
> >> I am not sure we can have a reasoned consideration of 'other issues
> derived'
> >> at such short notice.
> >>
> >> Look, I'd like our discussions and decisions to be informed and
> >> considered, and there simply isn't time for either.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Harald
> >>>
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> >> David Singer
> >> Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
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