Re: [rtcweb] One consuming project's concerns with OpenH264 as a MTI codec

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Basil Mohamed Gohar wrote:
> VP8 is not encumbered by patents because that patents that are known
> about are granted by Google and via Google's deal with MPEG-LA.  Nokia's
> threats have failed in Germany, so there remains no known encumbrance
> against VP8.

This is not correct. The Nokia vs. HTC case where three V8 related patents are included is still very much ongoing. For instance, one of the three cases has not even been started. There is some preliminary information about the first two e.g. in [1] and [2], but also appeals have been made, so the processes are far from complete.

Note that there are also three other Nokia patents that were declared to the IETF which are not covered in the Nokia vs. HTC case. 

The point is that it is definitely too early to make conclusions (either way).