Re: [rtcweb] Proposed Plan for Usage of SDP and RTP - Lower level API minus SDP

Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com> Fri, 08 March 2013 14:23 UTC

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From: Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com>
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 06:23:17 -0800
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Proposed Plan for Usage of SDP and RTP - Lower level API minus SDP
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On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 6:11 AM, Stefan Håkansson LK
<stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com> wrote:
> On 2013-03-08 15:07, Peter Thatcher wrote:
>>
>> Is the blob format defined by the IETF or the W3C?
>
>
> It is defined by the IETF currently.
>

But that's only because the W3C chose SDP, which is defined by the
IETF.  The W3C has effectively delegated its API surface to the IETF.
Which blob format to use in the first place (SDP, something else, or
none at all) is still, ultimately, a W3C decision.  Right?

So, should the IETF WG's standing response to Robin and future
developers like him (and I'm sure the same thing will come up many
times for  many years) be "we don't talk about non-SDP around here" or
 should it be "that's a W3C issue.  Please share your input with their
working group"?  The latter seems to me much more friendly.