Re: [rtcweb] Video codec selection: Dropping options

Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Fri, 29 November 2013 12:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Video codec selection: Dropping options
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On 11/28/2013 07:05 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> wrote:
>> On 11/28/2013 11:40 AM, Jeremy Fuller wrote:
>>> Since we appear to be entering the realm of voting game theory, +1 to dropping options where consensus has previously proven to be unobtainable. These options have had their moment, time to focus on something else.
>> The WG has never voted on these alternatives; what failed was an attempt
>> at finding consensus.
>>
>> Furhtermore, the choice of voting method that the chairs are still
>> advocating (IRV) is one where presence of non-selected alternatives on
>> the slate can influence the outcome.
> Without taking a position on which system we should use, I would note
> that this is also true of Condorcet.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorcet_method#Evaluation_by_criteria

I think this is only true for candidates that form part of a Condorcet 
cycle.
If we get a real live Condorcet cycle, I for one am willing to live with 
any of the cycle members just because Condorcet cycles are cool :-)