Re: [rtcweb] Consensus vs. Voting (was Re: Call for Consensus Regarding Selecting Recommended Audio Codecs)

Jean-Marc Valin <jmvalin@mozilla.com> Mon, 14 January 2013 17:05 UTC

Return-Path: <jmvalin@mozilla.com>
X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDE521F89CE for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:05:22 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.677
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j75rrqZOmuJU for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:05:21 -0800 (PST)
Received: from smtp.mozilla.org (mx1.corp.phx1.mozilla.com [63.245.216.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB55F21F8956 for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:05:21 -0800 (PST)
Received: from [192.168.16.26] (pool-96-241-176-56.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.241.176.56]) (Authenticated sender: jvalin@mozilla.com) by mx1.mail.corp.phx1.mozilla.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 11886F20E0; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:05:20 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <50F43AD0.3030404@mozilla.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:05:20 -0500
From: Jean-Marc Valin <jmvalin@mozilla.com>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com>
References: <50D2CC6A.4090500@ericsson.com> <6515_1357907583_50F0067F_6515_1738_1_2842AD9A45C83B44B57635FD4831E60A0747CC@PEXCVZYM14.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <BLU0-SMTP880A602A311CE05C9DC39FD0290@phx.gbl> <A26C56D5-C501-4823-8099-62AF7910B8A4@ntt-at.com> <580BEA5E3B99744AB1F5BFF5E9A3C67D16813E56EC@HE111648.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> <50F41D97.1030508@nostrum.com> <CAD5OKxtsWMfAV=K4sM+zLXoyVCgihwujH2gG9ziA5GuEtsU0sQ@mail.gmail.com> <2327AE82-FC1E-4D09-B6B4-E87F01BD3527@phonefromhere.com> <CAD5OKxtqT9o0tESF-jk1va=LRvdZDqPjGSZcEhLCKmni2818wA@mail.gmail.com> <00D8DD68-DB4D-450F-8787-8C32BD459937@phonefromhere.com> <CAD5OKxt+ATzv75acQh=06q9oMPUUSSMw7bhj3akbyr=UaqQz+Q@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAD5OKxt+ATzv75acQh=06q9oMPUUSSMw7bhj3akbyr=UaqQz+Q@mail.gmail.com>
X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Cc: rtcweb@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Consensus vs. Voting (was Re: Call for Consensus Regarding Selecting Recommended Audio Codecs)
X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list <rtcweb.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb>
List-Post: <mailto:rtcweb@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:05:22 -0000

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On 01/14/2013 11:31 AM, Roman Shpount wrote:
> I would agree with this as well, except that I would suggest that
> all supported audio codecs SHOULD include PLC.

"SHOULD include a PLC" only makes sense if you specify minimum quality
requirements. Otherwise "repeat previous packet" or "fill with zeros"
all count as PLC. Personally, I really don't feel like getting into a
PLC quality spec.

	Jean-Marc
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/

iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQ9DrPAAoJEJ6/8sItn9q9ViIH/2qI6us49ZH9OYSzM8BIzpbp
rMAIpF3mzY9rVGagt2wwu+ndw1gQbTsgIgb/2R3o8OMsA0QElqKNSMMHWwS5r8Wa
vaG6pDs2BrVPiSnexrYxGd/KW0JGC4iHTT8EC8kxmtmOziH3D14EZK9POAqEr8VL
Z+s4eN0bLcet749AgoYxGL9fzNJNQ+0zDaDAUFvYrbytJjsBD5H7kmC+8Ee8mLgS
Sxk2fE6bJc7XXE/fF4z6oQrV4KAD8iLOFyXXv+H7gqfPQA4AgOVaeSUFG1dSVfaA
0F3wyf3ft+cZdCdAiaWjOd3UMTOExGkNK1e9fUabBl8w7Eo1W46/M1dlEFWET9U=
=B1n6
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----