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Re: [rtcweb] Some language on "prioritization"

"Matthew Kaufman (SKYPE)" <matthew.kaufman@skype.net> Mon, 31 March 2014 17:50 UTC

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From: "Matthew Kaufman (SKYPE)" <matthew.kaufman@skype.net>
To: Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
Thread-Topic: [rtcweb] Some language on "prioritization"
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Some language on "prioritization"
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And if SCTP and RTP have packets to send, which goes first, why, and under what circumstances?

Matthew Kaufman

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> On Mar 31, 2014, at 10:48 AM, "Harald Alvestrand" <harald@alvestrand.no> wrote:
> 
>> On 03/31/2014 07:42 PM, Michael Tuexen wrote:
>>> On 31 Mar 2014, at 19:38, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 31 March 2014 10:08, Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> wrote:
>>>> -- TODO: Specify a relative priority scheme that makes sense with SCTP,
>>>> with an appropriate reference. [draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-prpolicies]
>>>> specifies a priority policy, but it's about discarding packets, not
>>>> deciding which packets to send first, and it also makes it impossible to
>>>> specify time-bounded retransmission. --
>>> 
>>> Why would SCTP need special treatment?  I can understand if there are
>>> particular time-sensitive control messages that need to be given
>>> higher priority, but this is all time-sensitive.
>> A single transport connection (in this case an SCTP association) can
>> only use a single DSCP. So it would be OK to use the same priority for
>> all data channels, but things get complicated when when some data channels
>> would have different priorities requiring different DSCP markings.
> 
> The SCTP protocol machine will, at some given moment in time, have
> packets in its send buffers that belong to multiple data channels. Only
> one of them can go on the wire first.
> 
> Which packet does it choose to send first, and why?
> 
> That's the question I'm looking for an answer to.
> 
> If the answer has an RFC number, chapter and section, I'd be very happy.
> If it doesn't - perhaps we have to invent one.
> Or say that it's "implementation dependent".
> 
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