Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B2E21F8546 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:19:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.299, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DGz+X3J3cUPx for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp003.apm-internet.net (smtp003.apm-internet.net [85.119.248.52]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FA311E80E7 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22676 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2013 18:19:44 -0000 X-AV-Scan: clean Received: from unknown (HELO zimbra003.verygoodemail.com) (85.119.248.218) by smtp003.apm-internet.net with SMTP; 22 Jul 2013 18:19:44 -0000 Received: from zimbra003.verygoodemail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra003.verygoodemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B80E18A034C; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:19:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.157.113] (unknown [192.67.4.41]) by zimbra003.verygoodemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D595818A0341; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:19:43 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E782506D-DDF6-4D87-A1F3-BA61D19A6CA5" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: tim panton In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:19:50 +0100 Message-Id: <981F1A4D-245A-4F50-9A9C-6F22F00D8AC1@westhawk.co.uk> References: <51ED4A45.9000703@ik.nu> <51ED651B.3000401@goodadvice.pages.de> To: Roman Shpount X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:33:13 -0700 Cc: XMPP Jingle , rtcweb@ietf.org, public-webrtc@w3.org Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Proposed message to send to the IETF rtcweb and W3C WebRTC working groups. X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 18:19:54 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_E782506D-DDF6-4D87-A1F3-BA61D19A6CA5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On 22 Jul 2013, at 18:45, Roman Shpount wrote: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Philipp Hancke = wrote: > I said this before, but since you insist on repeating your argument = i'll repeat mine: I have running code doing exactly that. >=20 > It's hard work and there are some points where this is PITA, I have = discovered numerous bugs in chrome (and the jingle spec) along the way, = but it's certainly not unfeasible. >=20 >=20 > Out of curiosity, does the same code work with Firefox? As far as Phono is concerned - yes - but we had to do some work to make = that happen, more=20 work in fact than adding DTLS on the server side, which is (frankly) = absurd. T. --Apple-Mail=_E782506D-DDF6-4D87-A1F3-BA61D19A6CA5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
On 22 Jul 2013, at 18:45, Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> wrote:

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Philipp Hancke <fippo@goodadvice.pages.de> wrote:
I said this before, but since you insist on repeating your argument i'll repeat mine: I have running code doing exactly that.

It's hard work and there are some points where this is PITA, I have discovered numerous bugs in chrome (and the jingle spec) along the way, but it's certainly not unfeasible.


Out of curiosity, does the same code work with Firefox?

As far as Phono is concerned - yes - but we had to do some work to make that happen, more 
work in fact than adding DTLS on the server side, which is (frankly) absurd.

T.


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