Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 DTLS heartbeat

Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Wed, 14 January 2015 22:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 DTLS heartbeat
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Den 14. jan. 2015 21:06, skrev Michael Tuexen:
> On 14 Jan 2015, at 18:17, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 14 January 2015 at 00:49, Michael Tuexen
>> <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> wrote:
>>> * DTLS does the PMTUD using DTLS heartbeats
>>> * SCTP does the PMTUD using SCTP HEARTBEAT and PADDING chunks
>>>
>>> My understanding is the RTCWeb uses the second option as described in
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-channel-13#section-5
>>
>> SGTM.  That means we don't need to reference the DTLS heartbleed extension.
> It is not referenced in the RTCWeb documents, only in
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-dtls-encaps-07
> which allows both options.

So which document should we put it in that we use the second option?
-transport, or a post-last-call update of -datachannel?

> 
> Best regards
> Michael
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