Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04
Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> Mon, 30 September 2013 22:30 UTC
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From: Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:30:08 -0700
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04
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Yes. In the offers and answers that WebRTC endpoints create, a=ice-lite is prohibited, since WebRTC endpoints must support "Full" ICE. The remote endpoint may of course support only ICE Lite, and WebRTC implementations must work properly with such endpoints. This isn't normatively indicated anywhere that I could find, so I plan to add specifics on this to the next version of JSEP. On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> wrote: > 2013/9/30 Rauschenbach, Uwe (NSN - DE/Munich) <uwe.rauschenbach@nsn.com>: > > JSEP-04 prohibits the use of a=ice-lite. It is stated that it is > incompatible with I-D.ietf-rtcweb-rtp-usage. > > Can you point out which specific aspect of this draft ICE Lite is > incompatible with? > > > > In deployments where one endpoint is a browser and another one is a > gateway connected to the public Internet, it makes sense to allow ICE lite. > > Without reading JSEP-04 I expect that it is not allowed for a web > browser to indicate "a=ice-lite", but a server can do that. Anyhow, > AFAIR the usage of ICE lite is fully transparent for the non ICE lite > endpoint. > > > -- > Iñaki Baz Castillo > <ibc@aliax.net> > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb >
- [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Rauschenbach, Uwe (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Adam Roach
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Adam Roach
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04 Iñaki Baz Castillo