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Re: [rtcweb] rtcweb-transports reference to TRAM discovery

Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> Tue, 16 December 2014 17:40 UTC

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From: Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 09:40:18 -0800
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] rtcweb-transports reference to TRAM discovery
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Given that TURN servers can be used for STUN, is there a need to
autodiscover STUN-only servers?

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:23 PM, 🔓Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com> wrote:
>
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> On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:56 AM, Hutton, Andrew <andrew.hutton@unify.com>
> wrote:
>
> +1 Also wondering why it is not appropriate?
>
> F20 in the requirements draft states:
>
> F20     The browser must support the use of STUN and TURN
>            servers that are supplied by entities other than
>            the web application (i.e. the network provider).
>
> So I was thinking the need for specifying the discovery method would not
> be controversial.
>
>
> Note that draft-ietf-tram-turn-server-discovery only discovers TURN
> servers.  If we need to discover STUN servers, too -- and I think we do --
> we need that document to expand its scope or a second document.
>
> I recently attended a talk where Matt Peterson presented Burning Man's
> network.  That network assigns RFC6598 addresses to each Burning Man
> "camp", and their ISP provides CGN'd addresses to Burning Man.  Each camp
> operates its own WiFi network, and we can all reasonably assume they are
> using typical consumer or SMB NAPT devices for those networks (e.g.,
> D-Link, Linksys, Ubiquity, etc.).  To avoid tromboning camp-to-camp WebRTC
> traffic to their ISP's CGN, they would benefit from a STUN and a TURN
> server within the Burning Man network.  His presentation can be found at
> https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog62/agenda (PDF and video).
>
> -d
>
>
>
> Andy
>
>
> *From:* Simon Perreault [mailto:sperreault@jive.com <sperreault@jive.com>]
>
> *Sent:* 15 December 2014 15:49
> *To:* Eric Rescorla
> *Cc:* Hutton, Andrew; rtcweb@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [rtcweb] rtcweb-transports reference to TRAM discovery
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> I do not believe that this is an appropriate requirement
>
> Care to say why?
>
> Thanks,
> Simon
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