Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopening of decisions
Michael Tuexen <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> Fri, 15 February 2013 02:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopening of decisions
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On Feb 15, 2013, at 2:13 AM, Martin Thomson wrote: > On 14 February 2013 14:58, Michael Tuexen > <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> wrote: >> You could use the PPID of SCTP and would not need the in-band messages... > > Interesting thought. I'm not sure that I know how to do that. I > presume that this would require signaling to establish that PPID X is > binary and PPID Y is text, amirite? You register at IANA PPID X for binary and PPID Y (Y != X) for text. No signaling required. > >> However, assuming datachannel are bidirectional, I really think we need some >> sort of signaling to set them up to avoid collisions. > > Collision of what? The problem that the 1.5 RTT solves is not a > collision problem. It's a problem of a mismatch of configuration and > expectations on the two ends of the channel. If you remove the I expect each data channel consisting of a pair of streams. Each stream is contained in at most one data channel. I consider each side managing only its outgoing streams. Therefore if each side opens a data channel at about the same time, you end up with two data channels. Assume that there are no data channels before that and that you don't reserve any stream, chances are that each data channel consists of out going stream with stream id 0 and incoming stream with stream id 1. Best regards Michael > expectations (negotiate if you care), and don't worry about matching > configuration (make configuration mutable, and again: negotiate if you > happen to care), what then? >
- [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation Martin Thomson
- [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopening o… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Matthew Kaufman (SKYPE)
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Michael Thornburgh
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Michael Tuexen
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- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] Data Channel Negotiation and reopeni… Harald Alvestrand