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Re: [rtcweb] Proposal to break the ICE impasse

Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 29 January 2019 02:05 UTC

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From: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 11:05:22 +0900
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Proposal to break the ICE impasse
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On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 10:24 AM Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:

>
> No, that's not what I said. What I said was "A system with substantial
> deployment that works properly with WebRTC if the default candidates are
> UDP but not when the default candidates are TCP and the proto is UDP/foo"
>

 When we call for consensus, we will take this into account.

My current plan is to discuss the timing with Sean tomorrow (Japan time)
and call for consensus by the end of the week, with the usual time frames.

Ted

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