Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-overview-13.txt

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My understanding from Honolulu was that we were NOT going to talk about "WebRTC User Agents" - we were going to talk about "WebRTC browsers" and "WebRTC non-browsers".



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From: Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)<>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-overview-13.txt

>A WebRTC browser (also called a WebRTC User Agent or WebRTC UA) is      >something that conforms to both the protocol specification and the
>Javascript API defined above.

Thanks for adding updates to the terminology, which now captures most
of it.
I have a comment on the above text in 2.2.

This seem to focus more on WebRTC **browser**. But, there are hybrid
environments, such as Apache Cordova, which are not browsers but can
conform to protocol specification and Javascript API just like a
browser (as most of the times they share same source code as a browser). Android KitKat provided WebView component, that supports WebRTC APIs+Javascript, is one example which is close to native than hybrid environment. To include these use cases, I suggest changing the above text to:

"A WebRTC User Agent or WebRTC UA is something that conforms to both the protocol specification and the Javascript API defined above. WebRTC browser is one such WebRTC UA. However, other non-browser implementations may conform to WebRTC UA as well."


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> Subject: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-overview-13.txt
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
>  This draft is a work item of the Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers
> Working Group of the IETF.
>         Title           : Overview: Real Time Protocols for Browser-based
> Applications
>         Author          : Harald T. Alvestrand
>        Filename        : draft-ietf-rtcweb-overview-13.txt
>        Pages           : 22
>        Date            : 2014-11-28
> Abstract:
>    This document gives an overview and context of a protocol suite
>    intended for use with real-time applications that can be deployed in
>    browsers - "real time communication on the Web".
>    It intends to serve as a starting and coordination point to make sure
>    all the parts that are needed to achieve this goal are findable, and
>    that the parts that belong in the Internet protocol suite are fully
>    specified and on the right publication track.
>    This document is an Applicability Statement - it does not itself
>    specify any protocol, but specifies which other specifications WebRTC
>    compliant implementations are supposed to follow.
>    This document is a work item of the RTCWEB working group.
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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