[rtcweb] BCP over TURN will not be in scope ... and MPLS over UDP over TURN will not be in scope ... and ...

Spencer Dawkins <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 26 February 2014 02:52 UTC

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Subject: [rtcweb] BCP over TURN will not be in scope ... and MPLS over UDP over TURN will not be in scope ... and ...
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So ... TRAM was chartered last Thursday ...

I'm gonna let Gonzalo (Yet Another Soon-to-be Former AD Serving as WG 
Chair) and Simon actually chair their working group for at least a full 
week before intruding further, but for now, let's assume that the 
working group wants to work on the milestones they signed up for last 
week, and see how badly that assumption blows up, rather than talk about 
rechartering every time someone proposes a topic that's out of scope.

I look forward to attending the first working group session next week, 
and to balloting on six TRAM drafts before IETF 92.

Thanks,

Spencer, as the responsible AD