Re: [rtcweb] Review request for RTCWeb standard signaling protocol

Saul Ibarra Corretge <saul@ag-projects.com> Sat, 08 October 2011 09:27 UTC

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On Oct 7, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Neil Stratford wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Ravindran Parthasarathi <pravindran@sonusnet.com> wrote:
> Browser to browser real time communication is no different from other real-time communication apart from the existing web infrastructure. In case your argument is to use the existing web infrastructure like websocket, I agree with you.
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> It is different to traditional RTC - we have a javascript execution engine intimately tied in to every client. This completely changes the solution space.
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> But in case it is not the reason, Could you please list the reason for new signaling protocol requirement .
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> I already listed them: 
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> - No server side infrastructure (SIP proxies etc) to maintain or configure.
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> - No special understanding in the server side web application beyond discovering peer identities you might want to communicate with.
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Looks like some zeroconf style thing, it could be an interesting thing to explore. Do you have any ideas on how the discovery would work over the Internet?

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Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
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