Re: [rtcweb] interworking with non-WEBRTC endpoints [was RE: UseCase draft]

"Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal (mperumal)" <mperumal@cisco.com> Thu, 03 May 2012 09:25 UTC

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From: "Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal (mperumal)" <mperumal@cisco.com>
To: Marshall Eubanks <marshall.eubanks@gmail.com>, Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>
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|My objection is that the proposed system will require middleware
|to interoperate with the vast number of videoconferencing sessions
|out there, most of which use RTP. From the standpoint of a video
|service provider, buying hardware to support video to laptops is
|likely to lead to requests that participants download some other 
|software which interoperates natively.

I find this argument nothing different from those for interoperating with legacy phones which probably would outnumber videoconferencing systems out there by a very large number. Given that video conferencing systems are fairly advanced, rather than requiring customers to use insecure communication, service providers could require those manufacturers to support secure communication at minimal cost. I don't see how insecure communication would go well with all those customers who would like to use web based communication over the Internet.

Muthu

|-----Original Message-----
|From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks
|Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:49 PM
|To: Iñaki Baz Castillo
|Cc: rtcweb@ietf.org
|Subject: Re: [rtcweb] interworking with non-WEBRTC endpoints [was RE: UseCase draft]
|
|On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> wrote:
|> 2012/5/2 Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com>:
|>> For other decisions, such as if we disallow un-encrypted RTP by
|>> WEBRTC endpoints, we create a requirement that some device does
|>> the interworking between WEBRTC endpoints (which do only SRTP)
|>> and non-WEBRTC endpoints (which do RTP).  That means, for that
|>> interworking, we would adopt the interworking model on slide 7
|>> that I presented at IETF83,
|>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-WEBRTC-3.pdf
|>
|> Hi, the link is broken (404). Could you please point to a working one?
|>
|
|http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-rtcweb-3.pdf
|
|> However, when I presented slide 7, there were objections at the microphone that this model 'is
|broken'.  I would like to understand the objections so we can reach consensus on how interworking from
|WEBRTC to non-WEBRTC is expected to occur.
|
|My objection is that the proposed system will require middleware to
|interoperate with the
|vast number of videoconferencing sessions out there, most of which use
|RTP. From the
|standpoint of a video service provider, buying hardware to support
|video to laptops is likely to
|lead to requests that participants download some other software which
|interoperates natively.
|
|This is an existing business with a fairly large scale and installed
|base. Not operating the way that they do is not likely to go over
|well.
|
|Regards
|Marshall
|
|> Thanks a lot.
|>
|> --
|> Iñaki Baz Castillo
|> <ibc@aliax.net>
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