Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video codec MTI discussion
Randell Jesup <randell-ietf@jesup.org> Thu, 14 March 2013 12:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video codec MTI discussion
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On 3/13/2013 6:06 PM, Jonathan Rosenberg wrote: > > I’d like to put a different perspective on the video MTI discussion. > Note: I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I'll make a comment anyways and read the rest this morning. :-) > Many developers would probably love to connect users on the web with > users on mobile apps. Most mobile platforms today support H264 based > hardware acceleration for decode and sometimes encode, but not yet > VP8. Developers who want to build business communications clients will > need to connect those users with other users in the business, who may > be using videophones, PC clients, telepresence units or video room > systems, the vast majority of which do not support VP8 today, but many > of which do support H.264. I'll note that (no new arguments here): a) not all H.264 hardware is good at low-delay coding, or will support all the knobs we would like for realtime use b) software encoding generally uses more power, but WiFi at constant send/receive and device displays use a lot of power, such that the reduction in talk time for software encoding (at least at lower resolutions) c) existing applications using H.264 variants (i.e. Hangouts) are in wide use using software encoding (to the best of my knowledge) Mobile devices without HW encode may be limited by running out of CPU due to resolution & framerate. -- Randell Jesup randell-ietf@jesup.org
- [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video cod… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Cameron Byrne
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Simon Pietro Romano
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Lorenzo Miniero
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Andrew Allen
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Cameron Byrne
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Andrew Allen
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Daryl Malas
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Cameron Byrne
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Adam Roach
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Ben Strong
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… David Singer
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… David Singer
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Monty Montgomery
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Lorenzo Miniero
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Ben Strong
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Mark Weidick
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Chris Wendt
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Erik Lagerway
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Daryl Malas
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video… Martin J. Dürst