Re: [rtcweb] interworking with non-WEBRTC endpoints [was RE: Use Case draft]

Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Fri, 04 May 2012 11:45 UTC

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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>, Neil Stratford <neils@belltower.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 13:44:57 +0200
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The Return of Java Applets :)

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From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Iñaki Baz Castillo
Sent: 4. toukokuuta 2012 14:17
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] interworking with non-WEBRTC endpoints [was RE: Use Case draft]

2012/5/4 Neil Stratford <neils@belltower.co.uk>:
> There is no reason that the RTP to SRTP/ICE gateway needs to be hosted 
> server side, it could equally be a software component downloaded to 
> each client machine running a WebRTC browser.
>
> In fact, you could even do it in a Java Applet that's sole purpose is 
> to relay RTP to SRTP and perform ICE with the local WebRTC stack.
>
> No, actually, forget I said that.

No no no, you said that, you said that !!!
I cannot forget it, it's the most painful concept I've ever read !!! XDDD

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