Re: [rtcweb] No Plan

Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Wed, 29 May 2013 22:17 UTC

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On 29 May 2013 14:15, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> wrote:
> As Alan Lakein used to say: "Failing to plan is planning to fail."
> Hopefully that's not true of the "No Plan Plan" for RTCWEB. :-)

I hope that what Emil intends is for these other things to be
addressed by expanding the WebRTC API in various ways to accommodate
the use cases we've identified.

There's an argument for not doing these things in SDP.  It's also
known as Comment 22.