Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio codecs
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The mandatory-to implement (MTI) codec for rtcweb should ensure interoperability and good quality. It should be possible to implement the codec without hurdles. The G.722 provides wideband quality at 64 kbit/s. It is easy to implement and causes no additional costs. Hence G.722 should be a MTI codec for rtcweb. It provides also interoperability to other voice communication services. For interoperability reasons to other voice communication services G.711 should be a MTI codec for rtcweb. It provides only narrow-band quality. But it is easy to implement and causes no additional costs. For interoperability reasons to other voice communication services AMR and AMR-WB should be supported. As these codecs are not that easy to implement and may cause additional costs, they should not be MTI codecs for rtcweb. If rtcweb is used for calls to mobile phones, it is likely that these codecs will be supported as this guarantees the best quality. Other low bitrate codec may be supported , but should not be MTI codec for rtcweb. The codecs cause additional hurdles. Interoperability is already guaranteed by the MTI codecs. The implementer can decide on its own to support the codec. Best regards, Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Cullen Jennings (fluffy) Sent: Donnerstag, 16. August 2012 19:16 To: rtcweb@ietf.org Subject: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio codecs At the last meeting we took a hum on selecting Opus and G.711 as the mediatory to implement audio codecs. If there is any new opinions please send them to the list by August 30th, after which the chairs will make a determination of consensus. Thanks, Cullen Please note that the following IPR disclosure have been made on these codecs. They can be found at http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/ 2010-11-07 * ID # 1445 "Broadcom Corporation's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-codec-opus-00 and draft-ietf-codec-description-00 (1)" 2010-11-07 * ID # 1446 "Xiph.Org Foundation's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-codec-opus-00" 2010-11-12 * ID # 1447 "Broadcom Corporation's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-codec-opus-00 and draft-ietf-codec-description-00 (2)" 2011-03-23 * ID # 1520 "Qualcomm Incorporated's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-codec-opus-05" 2011-03-27 * ID # 1524 "Xiph.Org Foundation's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-codec-opus-05" 2011-03-29 * ID # 1526 "Broadcom Corporation's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-codec-opus-05" 2011-03-29 * ID # 1525 "Skype Limited's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-codec-opus-05" 2011-07-23 * ID # 1602 "Skype Limited's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-codec-opus-07" 2012-01-25 * ID # 1670 "Microsoft Corporation's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-codec-opus-10" 2012-03-12 * ID # 1712 "Huawei Technologies Co.,Ltd's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-codec-opus-11 (1)" 2012-04-02 * ID # 1741 "Huawei Technologies Co.,Ltd's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-codec-opus-11 (2)" _______________________________________________ rtcweb mailing list rtcweb@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Monty Montgomery
- [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio codecs Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Monty Montgomery
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Lorenzo Miniero
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Ken Fischer
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… tom harper
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… stephane.proust
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Lishitao
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Neil Stratford
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Paul Coverdale
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Lishitao
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Olle E. Johansson
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Bernhard.Feiten
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Mandyam, Giridhar
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Neil Stratford
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [rtcweb] Confirmation of consensus on audio c… Ron
- [rtcweb] Consensus Statement for Re: Confirmation… Magnus Westerlund