Re: [rtcweb] Finishing up the Video Codec document, MTI (again, still, sorry)

David Singer <singer@apple.com> Thu, 04 December 2014 22:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Finishing up the Video Codec document, MTI (again, still, sorry)
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> On Dec 4, 2014, at 12:33 , cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org> wrote:
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> A formal "unwilling to license" without any factual information to back it up is practically meaningless.

They supply a (long) list of actual patents. That is quite a bit of factual information.  (Rather too much for some people, and not enough for others, I suspect; a lot of work to read them, and not specific reasons why they think those patents apply.  But you take what you can get, and the formal process only asks for the patent numbers.)

> What is the legal difference between a company that does that and a company who sues using a previously-undeclared H.264 IPR?

Well, in one case you were put on formal notice, and in the other, it was a situation you were previously unaware of. IANAL but I think this makes a difference.

David Singer
Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.