Re: [rtcweb] Reminder: Working group last call for draft-ietf-rtcweb-security-arch

Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com> Wed, 06 March 2013 03:42 UTC

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Or at least recommend against granting long term screen sharing permissions. Spying via audio and video is scary, true, but creepy screen sharing takes it to a new level.

On Mar 4, 2013, at 17:03, "Martin Thomson" <martin.thomson@gmail.com> wrote:

> Does the text say: "screen sharing is a bad idea" ?
> 
> On 4 March 2013 15:36, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
>> Thanks, Justin.
>> 
>> I have been working on something for this and hope to have some text soon.
>> 
>> -Ekr
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I already sent mail to Eric on this, but one thing that needs
>>> consideration in this draft is the use case identified in section 4.2.7 of
>>> draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements-06, i.e. desktop sharing.
>>> Section 5.2 of the security doc covers the requirements for consent for
>>> camera access, but not for desktop access.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Colin,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for reviewing the document.  As you note, there are open
>>>> issues; 5.1, for example, has this:
>>>> 
>>>> "This is a  deliberate implementation complexity versus security
>>>> tradeoff.
>>>> [[ OPEN ISSUE::  Should we be more aggressive about this?]]"
>>>> 
>>>> As far as I am aware,though, the document in each case includes a
>>>> proposal for the Open Issue,
>>>> and it is that which would be in a WG document post last-call.  But if
>>>> folks looked at the document
>>>> and answered the "open issues" within, that would certainly be very
>>>> welcome input.
>>>> 
>>>> Were there any Open Issues or other points you wanted to comment on
>>>> directly?
>>>> 
>>>> Ted
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> but there
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org> wrote:
>>>>> Ted,
>>>>> 
>>>>> This draft has a number of places where open issues are noted (e.g., in
>>>>> Sections 5.1 and 5.5, but there are many others). It seems premature to
>>>>> issue a working group last call until those are resolved.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Colin
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 25 Feb 2013, at 23:27, Ted Hardie wrote:
>>>>>> This is a reminder that there is an ongoing last call for
>>>>>> draft-ietf-rtcweb-security-arch-06.  Please send comments, including
>>>>>> those of the "reviewed and no issues" ilk, by March 9th, 2012.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ted Hardie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> This begins a working group last call for
>>>>>>> draft-ietf-rtcweb-security-arch.  Please send comments to the list by
>>>>>>> March 9, 2013.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ted, Cullen, Magnus
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Colin Perkins
>>>>> http://csperkins.org/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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