Re: [rtcweb] Performance of H.264...
Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org> Wed, 20 November 2013 22:14 UTC
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From: Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org>
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Hi, I believe you can indeed include an H.261 *de*coder without running unmanageable risk, for pretty much every value of unmanageable. The *en*coder is much trickier, as you would have to ensure that your non-standardized mechanisms are also not covered by enforceable patents. H.261 *En*coders have never been standardized. You could in theory implement, without deviation, RM8 (the final H.261 test model), published around the same time as H.261. Stephan On 11.20.2013, 16:57 , "Basil Mohamed Gohar" <basilgohar@librevideo.org> wrote: >On 11/20/2013 04:53 PM, Thomas Reisinger wrote: >> From my opinion we should stick with h.263 even the minimal risk or >>licences for the implementer. H261 is a no go for me. >> >> Thomas Reisinger > >Thomas, > >The point of choosing something aside from VP8 and H.264, which are both >superior to H.263, is to *completely* avoid all raised and known >licensing concerns in the mandatory part of the spec. > >This is where H.261 has any value at all in this discussion, even more >so than any alleged quality tweaks and performance. It is because any >rtcweb implementation can include a standards-compliant H.261 en/decoder >without worrying at all about patent risks. > >If we're willing to accept even a small degree of patent risk, then that >opens up the door to formats far superior to H.261 and even H.263, >several of which have already been presented. > >-- >Libre Video >http://librevideo.org >_______________________________________________ >rtcweb mailing list >rtcweb@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb
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- Re: [rtcweb] Performance of rate-controlled H.264… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] Performance of rate-controlled H.264… Bo Burman
- Re: [rtcweb] Performance of rate-controlled H.264… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [rtcweb] Performance of H.264... Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Performance of H.264... Maik Merten
- Re: [rtcweb] Performance of H.264... Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Performance of H.264... John Leslie
- Re: [rtcweb] Performance of H.264... Stephan Wenger
- Re: [rtcweb] Performance of H.264... Monty Montgomery
- Re: [rtcweb] Performance of H.264... Thomas Reisinger
- Re: [rtcweb] Performance of H.264... Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] Performance of H.264... Stephan Wenger
- Re: [rtcweb] Performance of H.264... Harald Alvestrand