Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (adding multiple sources without encoding them in SDP)
José Luis Millán <jmillan@aliax.net> Mon, 17 June 2013 19:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (adding multiple
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Yes, just adding and removing tracks. Regards 2013/6/17 Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com> > What do you mean by "change to an existing media stream"? Do you mean > adding and removing tracks? I don't know of any other changes that can be > made to a MediaStream. > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:52 AM, José Luis Millán <jmillan@aliax.net>wrote;wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> 2013/6/17 Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com> >> >>> In that use case, just call createLocalStream again with the new >>> MediaStream from GetUserMedia and get a new LocalMediaStream. There's no >>> need to alter the existing one. >>> >>> >> On the receiver side, I would expect to represent each remote MediaStream >> on its own audio+video display element. >> >> If, as a sender, I create a new LocalStream to represent a change in an >> existent media stream source, how will the receiver notice that the NEW >> MediaStream does refer to the previous one? >> >> >> >> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>wrote;wrote: >>> >>>> 2013/6/17 Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com>om>: >>>> > But I don't really see a use case where you would need to add tracks >>>> to a >>>> > MediaStreamTrackDescription, other than when parsing signalling and >>>> building >>>> > the MediaStreamTrackDescription to send down into createRemoteStream. >>>> > Perhaps if we had a use case, we could define such support. But >>>> otherwise, >>>> > I'd say it's not allowed. >>>> >>>> Use case: >>>> >>>> - Start a session/call with just audio (no video requested to the user >>>> via getUserMedia). >>>> - Latter the user wants to add video. >>>> - For that a new getUserMedia(video: true) is requested. >>>> - Extract the video track from the obtained MediaStream and add it to >>>> the PC. >>>> >>>> Hope this is an enough common use case. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Iñaki Baz Castillo >>>> <ibc@aliax.net> >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> rtcweb mailing list >>> rtcweb@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> José Luis Millán >> > > -- José Luis Millán
- [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (adding… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Jim Barnett
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… José Luis Millán
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… José Luis Millán
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Jim Barnett
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Robin Raymond
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Matthew Kaufman (SKYPE)
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Matthew Kaufman (SKYPE)
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Matthew Kaufman (SKYPE)
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Robin Raymond
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Enrico Marocco
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Enrico Marocco
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Max Jonas Werner
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Robin Raymond
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Matthew Kaufman (SKYPE)
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Robin Raymond
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Robin Raymond
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Robin Raymond
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Matthew Kaufman (SKYPE)
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Robin Raymond
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Roy, Radhika R CIV USARMY (US)
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (ad… Peter Thatcher