Re: [rtcweb] More H.264 vs VP8 tests

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On 2013-06-25 17:36, John Koleszar wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Bo Burman <>
> wrote:
>> Hi all,
> [...]
>  Another unexpected
> behavior for people trying this mode is that making libvpx bump up
> against the lower quantizer without setting an approximately correct
> target bitrate can also put the encoder into its "over quant" mode,
> where it'll throw away additional residual trying to hit the target
> bitrate.

To make sure that this is not an issue we checked the bit rate for a 
sequence compressed with our settings. Then we encoded the same sequence 
three times; once with --target-bitrate set to well below this bit rate, 
once with --target-bitrate set to this bit rate, and once with 
--target-bitrate set to well above this bit rate. In all three cases we 
ended up with exactly the same bit rate and PSNR. In fact the resulting 
.webm files were bit-identical. So I think we can rule out the 
possibility that setting the target bitrate incorrectly can affect the 

Again, we have put a lot of effort into selecting these parameters and 
those for X264/JM, but since this is a complex issue we welcome feedback.