Re: [rtcweb] Cisco to open source its H.264 implementation and absorb MPEG-LA licensing fees

[Steve Sokol <[e-mail]>]

Jonathan and Fluffy,

In regards to Apple's restriction on the installation of binary modules the
prevents iOS from being included in the list of supported platforms: what
precludes Cisco from offering a binary static library built for iOS? If
it's because the licensing terms you've struck with MPEG LA require you
count downloads, could you offer an iOS version that simply does a one-time
"phone-home" to cover the count requirement? The phone-home call could be
anonymous and unique (hash of MAC or similar). Not necessarily ideal from a
privacy perspective, but better than leaving a large, affluent and vocal
part of the digital ecosystem out.



On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Cullen Jennings (fluffy) <[e-mail]
> wrote:

>
> On Oct 30, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Matt Fredrickson <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > That is only as long as the binary versions don't have any additions or
> changes for such things.  Nothing says that the binary modules cannot be
> built in this way.
>
> The binary module will be build that way.
>
> All the build scripts etc that Cisco uses will be part of the open source
> project so that anyone can build it them selves and check that their build
> matches the Cisco binary and check the code does not have backdoors to send
> all your video to the NSA.
>
>
> >
> > Matthew Fredrickson
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Ethan Hugg <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Lorenzo,
> >
> > You will be able to inspect the source yourself for nefarious things
> like tracking as the code will be freely available.
> >
> > -EH
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Lorenzo Miniero <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
> > Il giorno Wed, 30 Oct 2013 10:41:27 -0500
> > Adam Roach <[e-mail]> ha scritto:
> >
> > > On 10/30/13 10:20, Matt Fredrickson wrote:
> > > > Does this mean that system information (for systems that this is
> > > > installed on) may be tracked and sent back to the Cisco servers for
> > > > accurate license usage count?  (ethernet MAC address, or some other
> > > > system specific info) so that redownloads of modules on the same
> > > > system are not counted towards your license usage accounting?
> > >
> > > My understanding is that MPEG-LA has a per-organization royalty cap
> > > for H.264 (13 MUSD, if my memory serves), and that Cisco reaches that
> > > cap quite easily with their own products.
> > >
> > > /a
> >
> >
> > Which doesn't preclude the fact the module may do tracking anyway.
> >
> > Lorenzo
> >
> >
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