Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem
Cb B <cb.list6@gmail.com> Thu, 13 February 2014 18:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem
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On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Matthew Kaufman <matthew@matthew.at> wrote: > On 2/13/2014 9:56 AM, Cb B wrote: >> >> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Martin Thomson >> <martin.thomson@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On 12 February 2014 22:06, Cb B <cb.list6@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> For about a year now, i have been very concerned about IPv4 UDP. It >>>> has been increasingly associated with DDoS traffic [1], >>> >>> Is your concern that WebRTC will increase the potential for DoS (which >>> would presume the DoS mitigation measures in ICE [RFC 5245] are >>> insufficient), or is it just that UDP is so toxic to network operators >>> that you predict it will be turned off? >> >> My concern is that IPv4 UDP is so toxic it will be blocked. It may be >> wise to start SCTP in the standard from the start. >> > > Why SCTP? Why not "Just like UDP only restricted to having SRTP inside" or > even "just like UDP only a different protocol number that we like better"? > > (Assuming that this is a good idea at all) > UDP2 using a different protocol number would be sufficient to differentiate from the "bad" traffic. Cameron > Matthew Kaufman > > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Martin Thomson
- [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Cb B
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Cb B
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Cb B
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Cb B
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Cb B
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Cb B
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Dave Taht
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Cb B
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Cb B
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Dave Taht
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Dave Taht
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Dave Taht
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Cb B
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Jeremy Laurenson (jlaurens)
- Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem Cynthia G. Anderson