Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling discussion (NB: Actionitems enclosed!)
"Ravindran Parthasarathi" <pravindran@sonusnet.com> Wed, 05 October 2011 18:34 UTC
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From: Ravindran Parthasarathi <pravindran@sonusnet.com>
To: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling discussion (NB: Actionitems enclosed!)
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Hi Ted, Thanks for providing the opportunity to present my draft. The main advantage of having standard signaling protocol are 1) Easy RTCWeb app development by non-real-time Web developer. 2) Better performance compare to JS based signaling Sec 3 (Issues without RTCWeb standard signaling protocol) and Sec 4 (Standard RTCWeb signaling protocol advantages) are added to explain the need for standard signaling protocol. My intention of sec 3 & sec 4 to indicate that the weakness of "nothing" as a protocol and also to indicate standard signaling protocol does not stop custom made signaling protocol. I understand from the review comments that the text in these section has to be revised for clarity . Also few points which I received as part of the draft review comment has to be added. Please let me know in case you wish to see any specific point in these sections. I completely understand the "time to market" need for the RTCWeb specification and also "n" of difference of opinion starting from "nothing" to n number of variant of "standard signaling protocol". I have mentioned the list of existing signaling protocol in sec 6 to select by which the time to develop the signaling protocol will be avoided and also most of the existing protocol would have matured by now. Also, I have added sec 5 of the draft to provide the strong technical requirement of RTCWeb signaling which helps to select the protocol in sec 6. Please let me know in case more concrete way to solve this issue. Thanks Partha From: Ted Hardie [mailto:ted.ietf@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 10:15 PM To: Ravindran Parthasarathi Cc: rtcweb@ietf.org Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling discussion (NB: Actionitems enclosed!) Hi Partha, We'd be happy to consider a signaling protocol proposal from you. Unfortunately, the current iteration of your draft does not contain a concrete proposal so much as a discussion of the advantages of a standardized signaling protocol. To make further progress, the chairs believe we need concrete proposals at this time. Please let us know if you would like to provide an update with a concrete proposal. thanks, Ted On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Ravindran Parthasarathi <pravindran@sonusnet.com> wrote: Ted, Magnus, Cullen, Could you please consider RTCWeb standard signaling protocol (http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-partha-rtcweb-signaling-00.txt) draft as one of the proposal for this signaling discussion. Thanks Partha From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ted Hardie Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 9:31 PM To: rtcweb@ietf.org Subject: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling discussion (NB: Actionitems enclosed!) At today's Chairs call, Cullen, Magnus and I had a discussion of how to make progress on the signaling discussion. We feel the mailing list discussion needs to have more concrete proposals in order to make progress, and so we're putting forward the following: 1) If you plan to put forward a draft proposing a concrete solution in this space, please send your name to the mailing list with that intent by October 7th *THIS FRIDAY*. 2) Please have a -00 draft out for discussion by October 14th (the following Friday). This is to allow for a discussion and update prior to the -01 deadlines. 3) We will hold a conference call to discuss the drafts on October 21st (the Friday after that). Updates based on that discussion then have until the -01 drafts deadline to be complete. This is aggressive, but we feel we need to have at least -00s for the different ideas in place in order to make real progress. thanks, Ted, Magnus, Cullen
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Ted Hardie
- [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling discuss… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Neil Stratford
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Neil Stratford
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Making progress on the signaling dis… Randell Jesup