Re: [rtcweb] Requiring ICE for RTC calls

Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> Mon, 26 September 2011 16:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Requiring ICE for RTC calls
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On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Matthew Kaufman <matthew.kaufman@skype.net
> wrote:

> And "interoperability with SIP-PSTN providers" is only relevant if you are
> trying to turn the browser into another phone. We have enough phones. What
> we don't have are new real-time communication experiences that can only be
> created within this environment.
>

Are we deliberately creating an island? To be honest, I actually wanted to
put RTC in the phone, instead of SIP. I think it would be a great idea to
have desktop phone which runs a webkit browser with RTC and serves as an
advanced display phone for a PBX. If RTC would not support no-ICE non-RTP
calls, my only option would be to ignore the standard. So, in a sense we do
not have enough phones.

I think you point in a lot of ways is similar to the argument that we should
disable HTTP and leave only HTTPS since it is the only secure way to
communicate and everything else would be an attack vector.
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Roman Shpount