Re: [rtcweb] Matthew's response to straw poll

SM <sm@resistor.net> Fri, 20 December 2013 17:48 UTC

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Hi Gili,
At 08:50 20-12-2013, cowwoc wrote:
>One idea I was toying with is having everyone chip into a legal 
>pool. We would then use this money to contract the services of an 
>odd number of legal firms (1 or 3) picked at random that would share 
>their legal opinion on the IPR situation of VP8 and H.264, followed 
>by H.263, H.261, Theora if there is enough money.

[snip]

>The IETF is not the only organization to run into this kind of 
>situation. The first approach I've mentioned is inspired by a 
>real-life organization that I'm familiar with.

The situation is not an IETF problem.  It is a problem for the RTCWEB 
working group.  I don't think that it would be appropriate for the 
working group as a whole to contract the services of one or more 
legal firms as that might cause other problems.

Regards,
-sm