[rtcweb] 答复: Mute implementations (Re: More Comments ondraft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements-07)
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From: "Sunyang (Eric)" <eric.sun@huawei.com>
To: Randell Jesup <randell-ietf@jesup.org>, "rtcweb@ietf.org" <rtcweb@ietf.org>
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Subject: [rtcweb] 答复: Mute implementations (Re: More Comments ondraft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements-07)
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You said: "MediaStreams need to be able to be repointed, switched, processed, etc, OR you need to be able to replace a MediaStream in the inputs to PeerConnection with another one transparently without renegotiation (and that misses a bunch of uses)." But if the MediaStream you choose to replace the existing one contain codecs that not supported by remote end, I think we still need renegotiation. Or you can make sure that the browser can choose the same codecs as default with the replaced one, I think browser can not do this. -----邮件原件----- 发件人: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] 代表 Randell Jesup 发送时间: 2012年6月17日 8:39 收件人: rtcweb@ietf.org 主题: Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comments ondraft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements-07) On 6/16/2012 5:58 PM, Jim Barnett wrote: > It's capturing the requirement accurately that I'm concerned with. I > think "To be able to change the source of a video stream after its > creation" is too broad, in the sense that someone might interpret it to > mean that the system could shift from the front to the rear camera > without asking permission. For mute and hold, we want something like > "switch to a dummy source and back". The source that we switch to in > cases like this is not a 'first-class' video source, but rather a > place-holder. That's very different from switching to another live > source. Which, by the way, we should be able to do. MediaStreams need to be able to be repointed, switched, processed, etc, OR you need to be able to replace a MediaStream in the inputs to PeerConnection with another one transparently without renegotiation (and that misses a bunch of uses). The MediaStream Processing provides a mechanism to do this for both audio and video, plus the ability to do more complex operations (cross-fades audio-and-video, frame-accurate source switches, etc). If you don't have or use that, you need the ability to replace a track in a MediaStream with another track. All we're talking about are mechanisms to shuffle existing or creatable tracks/streams; a new camera source would require a call to getUserMedia() and a dialog. Once you had front and back, you could switch sources without effectively shutting down all media and restarting. Simple one camera -> one video stream mechanisms are insufficient for application using these features. If you force people, they'll roll their own using canvases, etc. I want something generic and usable in lots of interesting ways, not a few special-purpose pre-coded mechanisms (for example, a track.setMuteImage() method). -- Randell Jesup randell-ietf@jesup.org _______________________________________________ rtcweb mailing list rtcweb@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb
- [rtcweb] Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-ca… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-ca… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-ca… Göran Eriksson AP
- Re: [rtcweb] Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-ca… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-ca… Göran Eriksson AP
- [rtcweb] More Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-c… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] More Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-u… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] More Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-u… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] More Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-u… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] More Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-u… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] More Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-u… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] More Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-u… Hutton, Andrew
- [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comments … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Jim Barnett
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Jim Barnett
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Randell Jesup
- [rtcweb] 答复: Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Sunyang (Eric)
- Re: [rtcweb] 答复: Mute implementations (Re: More C… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Harald Alvestrand
- [rtcweb] 答复: 答复: Mute implementations (Re: More C… Sunyang (Eric)
- [rtcweb] 答复: Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Sunyang (Eric)
- Re: [rtcweb] 答复: 答复: Mute implementations (Re: Mo… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Jim Barnett
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] 答复: Mute implementations (Re: More C… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Stefan Hakansson LK