Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions....
cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org> Tue, 09 December 2014 17:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions....
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On 09/12/2014 12:45 PM, Sergio Garcia Murillo wrote: > On 09/12/2014 18:36, cowwoc wrote: >> On 09/12/2014 12:32 PM, David Singer wrote: >>> >>> I would also like to know from those confirming the sense of the >>> room, whether THEY THEMSELVES intend to implement both codecs, or >>> whether they conveniently think they don’t need to, and it’s just a >>> problem for other people to handle. >>> >>> Honestly, a +1 for “those other people should do it” is meaningless. >> >> That's a fair point. I'm guessing the vast majority of people >> answering on the mailing list only plan to implement one codec >> because they are non-browser implementors. > > No, that's not a fair point. I don't see most of the people making > taking decisions on other topics (SDP, FEC, DTLS, CC, > SVC/Simulcasting/Multicasting, Plan A/PlanB/No plan) implementing them > themselves. So if this going to be the rule about who-can-vote-what we > should redefine the whole IETF process. > > Everyone should be aware of what are they voting and what is the > amount of burden/costs it requires to be implemented, and see how that > will contribute to the success/failure of webrtc and vote accordingly. > Not just in this topic, but in any topic. Sergio, I think this warrants a discussion. It might not be very politically correct to say so, but I support the idea that only those who are implicated should have a say. The alternative leads to armchair politics and bikeshedding. That said, I echo Simon's point that until Apple and Microsoft officially declare their intent to implement WebRTC they are not "implicated", hence they should not really get to vote. Sorry guys :) Gili
- [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... David Singer
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Gaelle Martin-Cocher
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... tim panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Simon Perreault
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... tim panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Adam Roach
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Gustavo Garcia
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Simon Perreault
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... David Singer
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Cavigioli, Chris
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Cavigioli, Chris
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Adam Roach
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... David Singer
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Mohammed Raad
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... David Singer
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Mohammed Raad
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... David Singer
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Adam Roach
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Ron
- [rtcweb] Incentives (Re: Video codecs: Clear posi… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Alexandre GOUAILLARD
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Richard Barnes
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: [rtcweb] Video codecs: Clear positions.... Ron