IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (adding multiple sources without encoding them in SDP)

Enrico Marocco <enrico.marocco@telecomitalia.it> Tue, 18 June 2013 09:41 UTC

Return-Path: <enrico.marocco@telecomitalia.it>
X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47F421F9A99 for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 02:41:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -101.569
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.569 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZKoeycCv8SpT for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 02:41:39 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from GRFEDG702RM001.telecomitalia.it (grfedg702rm001.telecomitalia.it [217.169.121.21]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A896521F9930 for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 02:41:38 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from grfhub702rm001.griffon.local (10.19.3.9) by GRFEDG702RM001.telecomitalia.it (10.173.88.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.297.1; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:41:32 +0200
Received: from MacLab.local (10.229.8.22) by smtp.telecomitalia.it (10.19.9.235) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.297.1; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:41:32 +0200
Message-ID: <51C02B4C.2090108@telecomitalia.it>
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:41:32 +0200
From: Enrico Marocco <enrico.marocco@telecomitalia.it>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: =?UTF-8?B?ScOxYWtpIEJheiBDYXN0aWxsbw==?= <ibc@aliax.net>
References: <CAJrXDUHdoxLTsofiwLBdwBNnCCkCBgjSdbmLaXrNEPODMrsSVA@mail.gmail.com> <CABkgnnUmRpanfpwryyiCUsOdMLzrd74n-4LXaj_AK3aLe0yQ8Q@mail.gmail.com> <CAJrXDUGnEwtsGZwUUqQgH0vDnMPy=XxqwQB9fpNcW9yQDhFt4w@mail.gmail.com> <CABkgnnVghXLu0ZdNkBkvLkqr=xgx6irWnyebU6rv+D45M+iaUg@mail.gmail.com> <CAJrXDUFkdfE2gfkRx6im3qNwjd3ObNv0tGO8O0vht146+A1kfQ@mail.gmail.com> <CALiegfmMWiEZDL4eCc6VSEsH1z8F6K5Xzz_-Z6hiKiD9yAap0Q@mail.gmail.com> <51C0269B.5070200@telecomitalia.it> <CALiegf=dDAJAMaP5UeyUQeyqO-X-5wGgrELevuaQpWb6kPkHcw@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CALiegf=dDAJAMaP5UeyUQeyqO-X-5wGgrELevuaQpWb6kPkHcw@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010300030705010902060206"
X-TI-Disclaimer: Disclaimer1
Cc: "rtcweb@ietf.org" <rtcweb@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for a JS API for NoPlan (adding multiple sources without encoding them in SDP)
X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list <rtcweb.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb>
List-Post: <mailto:rtcweb@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 09:41:47 -0000

On 6/18/13 11:30 AM, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote:
>>> And do we really need SDP for that? mandatory?
>>
>> I won't comment on whether SDP was the best option to begin with, but
>> the fact that every other person on this list has a demo WebRTC app
>> that, with little to no manipulation, achieves some kind of *basic*
>> interoperability with legacy SIP proves that it was in fact a somewhat
>> practical one.
> 
> Yes, that is basically a "PSTN call", no more. For sure, many people
> have seen their mission accomplished with those demos ("we can enter
> the PSTN from the web, we are done, WebRTC satisfy our needs !!!!").

And even from the no-plan side of the fence that looks like a feature
rather than a bug.

Enrico

v2.1.5 | Report a Bug | By Email