Re: [rtcweb] Video Codec discussion in Thursday agenda slot

I don't get it either. Until Google posted their announcement, nothing 
had changed since the last postponement. Once Google posted their 
announcement, it was posted too late to be of any value for this 
meeting. And the relevant legal text (among other things) is still "TBD" 
and not even available for review.

I will reiterate what I said on March 7th: "Therefore I believe the most 
sensible action is to once again delay the MTI video codec discussion, 
remove it from the agenda from the upcoming meeting, and have the call 
for an MTI codec at a later time... no sooner than several weeks after 
the relevant license terms are even available to review. I hope the 
chairs concur."

The chairs now have requests from at least three participants to 
entirely defer the presentation and discussion. I cannot see how this 
could possibly have less weight than the single request received the 
very morning of the meeting last time.

We can hold a consensus call on the list right now regarding whether or 
not to proceed if these three requests are not enough.

Matthew Kaufman

On 3/12/2013 11:12 AM, David Singer wrote:
> I am sorry, I don't understand.
>
> At the last meeting, the codec discussion was deferred at the request of one company and with no reason offered.  It was delayed so late that people, such as my colleague, who had flown in for this discussion had already arrived when it was deferred.
>
> This time, we have late-breaking news which is missing important details, warrants significant preparatory discussion before the meeting, and you have justified requests for time from multiple companies, and you go ahead?
>
>
>
> On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:41 , Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> wrote:
>
>> WG,
>>
>> We will hold the presentations and the discussion on Thursday regarding
>> mandatory to implement video codec. Prior to any consensus question
>> regarding the actual codec the chairs will verify consensus to ask such
>> questions.
>>
>> For the chairs
>>
>> Magnus Westerlund
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> David Singer
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