Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 DTLS heartbeat
Michael Tuexen <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> Wed, 14 January 2015 22:40 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 DTLS heartbeat
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On 14 Jan 2015, at 23:12, Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> wrote: > > Den 14. jan. 2015 21:06, skrev Michael Tuexen: >> On 14 Jan 2015, at 18:17, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On 14 January 2015 at 00:49, Michael Tuexen >>> <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> wrote: >>>> * DTLS does the PMTUD using DTLS heartbeats >>>> * SCTP does the PMTUD using SCTP HEARTBEAT and PADDING chunks >>>> >>>> My understanding is the RTCWeb uses the second option as described in >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-channel-13#section-5 >>> >>> SGTM. That means we don't need to reference the DTLS heartbleed extension. >> It is not referenced in the RTCWeb documents, only in >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-dtls-encaps-07 >> which allows both options. > > So which document should we put it in that we use the second option? > -transport, or a post-last-call update of -datachannel? Do we really need a change? We have in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-channel-13#section-5 Incoming ICMP or ICMPv6 messages can't be processed by the SCTP layer, since there is no way to identify the corresponding association. Therefore SCTP MUST support performing Path MTU discovery without relying on ICMP or ICMPv6 as specified in [RFC4821] using probing messages specified in [RFC4820]. The initial Path MTU at the IP layer SHOULD NOT exceed 1200 bytes for IPv4 and 1280 for IPv6. In the next revision of https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-dtls-encaps-07#section-4 there will be the sentence: The path MTU discovery is performed by SCTP when SCTP over DTLS is used for data channels (see Section 4 of [I-D.ietf-rtcweb-data-channel]). Best regards Michael > >> >> Best regards >> Michael >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rtcweb mailing list >> rtcweb@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb >> > > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb >
- [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 DTLS… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … Schwarz, Albrecht (Albrecht)
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … 🔓Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … 🔓Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … 🔓Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] Question about support for RFC 6520 … Michael Tuexen