Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem
Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> Thu, 13 February 2014 23:54 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] UDP transport problem
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On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:50 PM, cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org> wrote: > On 13/02/2014 6:00 PM, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 5:51 PM, cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org> wrote: >>> >>> On 13/02/2014 5:46 PM, Dave Taht wrote: >>>> >>>> The biggest downside, as I see it, is targeting advancements in the >>>> state >>>> of >>>> the art, at windows. 98% of the world or so run non-windows based cell >>>> phones and tablets, and in terms of total users, probably outnumber >>>> the windows contingent at this point. >>>> >>>> SCTP and MPTCP are quite feasible on android and IOS. >>> >>> >>> It doesn't matter how many smartphones there are. What matters is how >>> many >>> of them will be used to do meaningful video chat. The screen real estate >>> on >>> these devices is way too small. >> >> In my experience, everybody is using tablets and handheld devices for >> video chat. >> It is a natural extension of the usage of the device to extend it from >> phone calls >> to video calls. >> >> The lack of a working camera on most desktops is a hindrance, and the >> placement >> of cameras on most laptops is not ideal. > > > All laptops and tablets come with decent cameras. I will agree that WebRTC > on tablets will be strong, but smartphones is really pushing it. Most of the > time I've seen people engage in video chat it was between family members; > far less for business use. And in those cases, I've seen people jump on > tablets and laptops instead of having to deal with a tiny, underpowered > smartphone for video. These are just personal observations, not science, so > please take them with a grain of salt. I will clarify what I said above is that what I observe among the under 20s is huge tablet and handheld use for videoconferencing. For business use I see primarily things like dedicated hardware, webex and to a smaller extent hangouts, and facetime. > Gili -- Dave Täht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html
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