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From: Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 16:32:09 +0200
Cc: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>,
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To: Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com>
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtcweb/wwQAPoDkr31juIYWsuupdWU4xBs>
Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Referring to 5245bis or 5245?
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> On Jun 8, 2017, at 15:14, Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com> =
wrote:
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> On 6/7/17 10:38 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
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>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:45 PM, Flemming Andreasen =
<fandreas@cisco.com> wrote:
>> Based on =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ice-rfc5245bis/referencedby/ =
(or you can take a look at =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jennings-rtcweb-deps/):
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>> draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp
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>> draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-sip-sdp
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>> draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-bundle-negotiation
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>> I don't see why any of these would require ICE-bis except through =
trickle.
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>> I appreciate that the document reference graph shows a lot of =
dependencies on ICE-bis, but what's not clear to me is what the =
*technical* dependencies are.
> The MMUSIC list would be the best place to discuss that further and if =
you want to make changes, then I'd suggest a thread per draft to =
understand the technical dependencies.=20
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> FYI, the MMUSIC chairs, ICE chairs and our AD (Ben Campbell) did have =
a discussion around this issue about a year ago in the context of =
bundle. At the time, we did identify references to new 5245bis behavior =
in the bundle draft that some people had asked for explicitly.=20
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> Thanks=20
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> -- Flemming=20

Flemming,

I have to ask if those conversation happened on list?  If not, it seems =
to me like the shorter path might be to share those 5245bis behaviors =
you identified.

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