Re: [rtcweb] Straw Poll on Video Codec Alternatives

Paul Coverdale <coverdale@sympatico.ca> Tue, 07 January 2014 22:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Straw Poll on Video Codec Alternatives
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1.    All entities MUST support H.264

a.    Are you in favor of this option [Yes/No/Acceptable]: Yes

b.    Do you have any objections to this option, if so please summarize
them:

 

2.    All entities MUST support VP8

a.    Are you in favor of this option [Yes/No/Acceptable]: No

b.    Do you have any objections to this option, if so please summarize
them: IPR status unclear and lack of interoperability with existing video
services

 

3.    All entities MUST support both H.264 and VP8

a.    Are you in favor of this option [Yes/No/Acceptable]: Acceptable

b.    Do you have any objections to this option, if so please summarize
them: Not ideal, but provides interoperability (albeit with IPR risk)

 

4.    Browsers MUST support both H.264 and VP8, other entities MUST support
at least one of H.264 and VP8

a.    Are you in favor of this option [Yes/No/Acceptable]: Acceptable

b.    Do you have any objections to this option, if so please summarize
them: Not ideal, but provides interoperability

 

5.    All entities MUST support at least one of H.264 and VP8

a.    Are you in favor of this option [Yes/No/Acceptable]: NO

b.    Do you have any objections to this option, if so please summarize
them: Doesn't provide interoperability 

 

6.    All entities MUST support H.261

a.    Are you in favor of this option [Yes/No/Acceptable]: NO

b.    Do you have any objections to this option, if so please summarize
them: Poor quality, and doesn't provide interoperability with existing video
services

 

7.    There is no MTI video codec

a.    Are you in favor of this option [Yes/No/Acceptable]: Acceptable

b.    Do you have any objections to this option, if so please summarize
them: Basically lets the market decide

 

8.    All entities MUST support H.261 and all entities MUST support at least
one of H.264 and VP8

a.    Are you in favor of this option [Yes/No/Acceptable]: No

b.    Do you have any objections to this option, if so please summarize
them: Poor quality of H.261, not widely deployed

 

9.    All entities MUST support Theora

a.    Are you in favor of this option [Yes/No/Acceptable]: NO

b.    Do you have any objections to this option, if so please summarize
them: Doesn't provide interoperability with existing video services

 

10.  All entities MUST implement at least two of {VP8, H.264, H.261}

a.    Are you in favor of this option [Yes/No/Acceptable]: NO

b.    Do you have any objections to this option, if so please summarize
them: Poor quality of H.261, not widely deployed

 

11.  All entities MUST implement at least two of {VP8, H.264, H.263}

a.    Are you in favor of this option [Yes/No/Acceptable]: NO

b.    Do you have any objections to this option, if so please summarize
them: 

 

12.  All entities MUST support decoding using both H.264 and VP8, and MUST
support encoding using at least one of H.264 or VP8

a.    Are you in favor of this option [Yes/No/Acceptable]: NO

b.    Do you have any objections to this option, if so please summarize
them: Doesn't provide full interoperability with existing video services

 

13.  All entities MUST support H.263

a.    Are you in favor of this option [Yes/No/Acceptable]: NO

b.    Do you have any objections to this option, if so please summarize
them: Not widely deployed

 

14.  All entities MUST implement at least two of {VP8, H.264, Theora}

a.    Are you in favor of this option [Yes/No/Acceptable]: NO

b.    Do you have any objections to this option, if so please summarize
them: Doesn't solve interoperability

 

15.  All entities MUST support decoding using Theora.

a.    Are you in favor of this option [Yes/No/Acceptable]: NO

b.    Do you have any objections to this option, if so please summarize
them: Doesn't solve interoperability

 

16.  All entities MUST support Motion JPEG

a.    Are you in favor of this option [Yes/No/Acceptable]: NO

b.    Do you have any objections to this option, if so please summarize
them: Not a viable proposal